Disclaimer, I haven't watched Xtale
so the original point of Error is: he's a bitch bastard who believes the multiverse is a big pot of bullshit and wants to personally murder the shit out of eeeeverything....but the original timeline. his objective is to destroy EVERYTHING until only that one timeline is left.
Ink's original purpose isn't to nurture creativity; it's to MAINTAIN AND UPKEEP ORIGINAL PLOTLINES. He's in universes not to fix them, or better them, but to ensure they don't deviate from their assigned plot. He does make smaller "sacrifices" but it's not to have friends or keep Blue and Dream by his side, it's just that the creators give them more plotlines outside the bounds of their own AU and by that point the original AU is too far gone to fix, so whatever.
So to me that gives Error VS Ink a few different flavors; one is the one I like to call "Stable-Verse". There's no balance, no limit, just infinity. Ink wants to upkeep the plotlines and please the creators (which, within himself, is also to prevent more art block aus from being created. If you love on the creator and their AU they're less likely to leave it incomplete). Meanwhile, Error destroys and wrecks AUs, and creates more outcodes via the survivors, which is contrary to his belief system, because the outcodes pollute more universes and plotlines and Error essentially undoes his work. The star Sanses are helpful not because they're his friends but because their objectives line up more often with Ink's than Ink's objectives line up with others.
In my opinion, Ink doesn't like XG for his "creativity", but because OVERWRITE could technically be helpful not in the way Gaster uses it, which goes against Ink's core principles, but because it could make fixing up the og plotlines so much easier if he has it, right? which means just allowing the man's games to happen. Besides, having a soul has always been Ink's dream, right?
the other flavor of "two-sided coin" I like is "Balance-Verse". The balance is a thing, both in terms of emotions and in terms of multiverse size. You go from "you know what, I wanna do this thing I believe in" to "there's a voice in my head. BETTER DO WHAT IT SAYS HUH"
thus, the beautiful AO3 tag of "forced god of creation!Ink" and "forced god of destruction!Error". The tags disclaimer it a lot: they don't necessarily always want to do these things. You get a much less calculating, sweeter Ink who's hand is kinda forced by the creators to fix shit up all the time for them, and a cynical but much more relatable Error who doesn't have a choice and physically has to destroy universes in order for the multiverse to not fucking explode.
Or, you know, they die and get replaced.
Or, worse, they can't die and are condemned to an eternity of doing the creators' bidding.
Here, they're only opposing forces because of misunderstandings and plotlines. They're actually much friendlier if they can just talk it out instead of duking it out.
....I'll be honest, that second flavor is my favorite. Tastes like dread. and Sanshipping.
(let me shill my Balance Verse fic rq :skull:)
What are your thoughts on Error and Ink having a creation/destruction balance?
LOVE IT OMG
I love when characters contrast but still fit together like a puzzle
Id say They're both chaotic neutral, and both have their own creative medium they enjoy (Ink loves every medium while Error's forte is knitting)
I like how they're so different but they're still friends. Even with their roles and their jobs
Technically, from what I understand, Ink's role isn't necessarily to create AUs but instead to nurture the creativity the creators of them have, example being XGaster. He didn't make Xtale as far as I'm aware but he encouraged Gaster with his creativity and his ability to OVERWRITE. (if I'm wrong on that I'm sorry it's been a while since I watched XTale djdjndnd)
Error's role is one I don't understand as much tho. Does he just destroy worlds on a whim or does he have reason to? And does he really destroy them or is it more complicated than that like with Ink? I feel like I know more about Ink than I do Error tbh (and that makes me SAD cause I love Error fhdhhdnd)
If yall ever see anything just rambling about Error or talking about canon Error facts n lore n stuff feel free to tag me in it cause I could sit and read about him all day :3
One thing i've run up against when dealing with fandom and characters making less than ideal choices is that people seem to treat a character's decision being sympathetic, the decision being understandable, the decision being reasonable, and it being objectively the best solution for the situation, as synonymous. When those are 4 very different things.
Chapters: 3/? Fandom: Undertale (Video Game) Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Relationships: Sans/Sans (Undertale), Papyrus/Papyrus (Undertale) Characters: Sans Ensemble (Undertale), Sans (Undertale), Papyrus (Undertale), Papyrus Ensemble (Undertale) Additional Tags: Dreamtale Nightmare Sans (Undertale), Dreamtale Sans | Dream (Undertale), Shattered Dreamtale Sans (Undertale), _____tale Sans | Ink (Undertale), Xtale Sans | Cross (Undertale), Killer Sans (Undertale) - Freeform, Horrortale Sans (Undertale), Underswap Sans (Undertale), Underlust Sans (Undertale), Underfell Sans (Undertale), Underswap Papyrus (Undertale), Underfell Papyrus (Undertale), Underfell Papyrus/Underswap Papyrus (Undertale), Bad Sanses | Nightmare's Gang (Undertale), bad sanses poly - Freeform, Forced God of Creation _____tale Sans | Ink (Undertale), Forced God of Destruction Error Sans (Undertale), undertale sans oc, Blood, Gore, mentions of cannibalism, Violence, Death, Manipulation, Polyamory, manipulative Nightmare, Suicidal Thoughts, Suicide mentions, manipulative Shattered, Shattered deserves his own warning, Ink needs a nap, They're All Gay, no dream/nightmare relationship, the creators are gods, the creators are you, the creators suck
Summary:
"I'm... you're still my baby brother. I have to protect you." His voice is firm, now, the smile is gone. The apple in his hands beckon. "From yourself too, if I have to." His hand raises- and he bites the apple. Not once, like Nightmare had, not twice- three full bites, before his beloved sibling could even react.
When Dream Shatters, Nightmare is thrown into a spiral of events orchestrated by the creators. Why is it his job to save a multiverse that hates him? Bitter- he gets to work, collecting strays along the way, before the creators (or his brother) get a chance to steal his new-found comfort from him.
Meanwhile, things go from bad to worse for Ink, who's best friend has suddenly changed personalities, and everything he knows about the multiverse collapses when he meets the envoys of the gods.
Why
I've said it once before. I can't afford to keep doing this, getting invested in people who don't love me anymore. (/p) Call it trust issues,
But we both know they weren't coming back. One of us had to leave eventually.
I did take something I shouldn't have. I'll give it back. They can do whatever they want with it.
umm i need reassurance that my presence is wanted but i can’t ask for reassurance because that’s really Embarrassing and it wouldn’t feel genuine if i asked for it
the file name for this was "the honk legion" because like chuckles, this guy is a clown with dark quips aplenty
I have so much to say about him but tbh he was kinda made as a sort of....idk. System and DID representation? full disclaimer, I don't have it, he IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE OR EVEN AN ACTUAL SYSTEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM AND I DO NOT WISH TO OFFEND ANYONE.
either way, yes. this is based off the idea that some multiverses might have a hard universe limit. when Error and other destroyers slack off, the universes on the outermost part might collide with the border, and each other, causing universes to collapse. this one is exactly this: three universes topple like dominos. The semi-sentient AU created as a result decides to fix it by.....uh.... *checks notes* fusing every single similar entity into one. So, instead of having Horror + Fell + Outer, you get this mess:
Legion.
Oh, and throw in the Error who failed to upkeep the entire thing, for comedic effect.
The four personalities of Legion cohabitate inside of his one body, regularly switching between each other to make said body properly function. Generally speaking, only one or two Sanses will be focused on the "outside", whereas the rest of them will be lounging around or chatting in headspace.
They do not use the nicknames "Horror/Fell/Outer/Error", and actually go by new ones (mostly out of a general agreement that "sans" is too annoying at the moment to use, and that they can't be bothered to fight over who gets to keep "sans".
Horror = Pumpkin, or Pumps (like the shoes, funnily enough. Pumpkin/Horror has a versed interest in fashion, choosing to just...not deal with their food intake. He has tried to ask Toffee for help learning how to knit, but it turns out he's just not patient enough.)
Outer = Star (Some people nick him Starburst. He's admittedly the most laidback of the group, being the main person in charge since he has the healthiest habits out of them all.)
Error = Toffee (This version of Error is actually a variant of a variant of Geno from a variant of an aftertale. Toffee being the nickname delivered to him by the Creators, for the color of his bones and the appearance of his blood when in the save screen. Of course, it didn't stick, as he turned into Error shortly after the voices manifested.)
and finally,
Fell = Pepper (as in, a bell pepper. His original nickname was Velvet, but the others just could not let it go when they witnessed him just...bite into a bell pepper like an apple. It has evolved into him keeping it as his name, because clearly there was no beating the meme)
FEEL FREE TO ASK ME MORE ABOUT THEM OMG.
(here's a very old design of him from five years ago, not accurate anymore.)
What about French Charas? 'Cause Chara has a latin root it very much is an old-ass, unused since 1200, frenchie name. CH is pronounced K in french too.
Gimme a French chara with the thickest fucking accent please
oui oui bonjour baguette
My favorite number is nine hon hon hon
Trnacript: Everytime a chara is made British an angel looses their wings </3 (I will accept irish or Scottish chara if they absolutely must be European, but in my heart they are southern mid western American) (frisk is Samoan)
Rex is an evil little menace we luv him
Don't praise him... he'll like it too much.
Eek trying to thinner lineart send help
I probably won't be finishing this ever, so: here goes!
this is set in an alternate universe. Might turn it into a fic too.
(y'all better thank @solsticecouncil for the plot)
[Error falls into a strange world, that doesn't function by the rules of the multiverse. Memory-less, Helpless, he accidentally gives up his name to "Nightmare", a Fey who's more sweet on Error than both of them are willing to admit. When Nightmare blunders and Error owns him right back, Nightmare resorts to asking his estranged husband, Ink, as well as Ink's concubine, Killer, for help.]
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