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so someone correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Silksong in an XBox game showcase a while back? And then it got taken off game pass and radio silence afterwards until today?
Assuming this info is correct, all I have to say about the Silksong announcement (especially with how low key it is but maybe we will hear more tomorrow and Friday) is that this is exciting but MAYBE we should take it with a grain of salt.
I dunno I feel like everyone is forgetting that an announcement like this has in the past lead to disappointment. I don’t think what we have gotten so far is deserving of this kind of reaction until Team Cherry explains themselves a little bit and gives information about what has been going on.
I dunno though that’s just my two cents and nothing against everyone getting excited I just hope we all manage our expectations.
And then he did
odysseus to palamedes the moment he's forced on the boat taking him to war
reference under the cut:
quick question yall, was I the only one who didn’t get the final conversation between Joker and Akechi in the cafe after Maruki left?
Hi friend don’t hide in the tags you are spitting some wisdom
Sorry to the peeps who knew me before the Ithaca saga came out, yall gotta deal with a new mess now
It is so jarring to go through the mouthwashing tag. One moment it’s a funny video of J*mmy and Swansea having a dance off. The next is a guttural depiction of a horse baby inside Anya.
What the hell even is this game
Jinx’s story is not about redemption or forgiveness. It is about change. It is about rebellion. It is about finding the will (through the people in your life both past and present) to create something new in spite of everything.
It is about breaking the cycle.
okie say what you will about arcane s2 but Ekko is the goat, king among plebeians, hero in a sea of messes
Spoilers for Arcane Season 2 Act 2…….
So I think back when Leblanc as Amara was speaking to Ambessa, the thing she stole that’s more valuable than gold was… Mel.
I think Leblanc was being honest with Mel in the hole. Kino started hearing rumors about his mom and that caused a domino effect that lead to the Black Rose learning about the child and getting really mad at Ambessa.
These people clearly value their powers and magic and are most likely angry at Ambessa for never revealing that she was pregnant with their “sister”. They see it as stealing one of their own.
My question is what will Mel do now? I mean, she does not like her mom (and is probably mad at her right now for lying). And she definitely hates Black Rose for killing Elara and Kino. I don’t know where her story is headed honestly
EDIT: quick extra note to add, when they were attacking Mel with chains and talking about having hopes for her brother, I think they initially thought he was the child and they tried to confirm it by attacking him the way they did Mel. The only difference is that Kino didn’t have the powers to save himself like Mel did. That is why they haven’t stopped since killing him. If Mel didn’t have the powers, then she would be just as dead as Kino.
I’ve been thinking about it a lot and I think I can finally put into words why 600 strike just did not work for me.
It's the tonal dissonance. It's the breaking of immersion.
600 strike in my opinion does not keep up with the tone of the musical or even the tone set by Get in the Water. Think about it: we go from a tragic song about a god adamant about killing a man just trying to get home, both tired but completely at odds… to a song of a mortal man jetbacking and striking a god with his mortal sword before stabbing said god with his own trident. And somehow not getting killed by said god he is torturing in the process, with no indication from the song or visuals that he is being aided by divine intervention. It completely destroys any tension from the previous song and paints Poseidon as not really a threat (after all he just got owned by a mortal).
I'm sorry the saga was great and the music was amazing but honestly? I just couldn't take the last song seriously at all, which sucks bc that is supposed to be the highest moment of the musical in terms of themes and pay off.
Absolutely no hate to Jorge though, that man is my hero and an inspiration (especially as a writer and painter). I’m being serious he is an amazing and cool person and he should be proud of himself for what he has managed to create. I hope he can be fulfilled in his life as he continues to create art for himself and others.
Okie so I actually want to hear everyone’s thoughts on the Vengeance Saga, cause I have some mixed thoughts.
On one hand, IT WAS SO GOOD FROM A VOCALS PERSPECTIVE AND THE SONGS BEING BOPS. I was impressed by everyone’s performances (seriously I know in every saga everyone sounds awesome but this saga is just so visceral and surreal?!) Odysseus (Jorge the king himself) especially was so good in this musical?! His desperation and anger?? THE SCENE WHERE HE NEARLY DROWNS??? AAAAAAAAAAA
On the OTHER hand, I can’t be the only one that found the saga a little… corny? Not even the saga honestly just 600 strike. Idk I just couldn’t take 600 Strike seriously and I don’t think a song with that kind of narrative weight should have that effect. I recognize the musical is inspired by video games and anime, and that’s fine. But I feel there is a difference between being inspired by different works of anime versus using overused cliches and stereotypes from anime as a genre. (and maybe I’m taking it a little too literally but how the hell did Ody actually manage to torture Poseidon, like did the souls of his crew give him the power to stand to a god?)
Idk these are just initial thoughts I’d love to hear everyone’s takes bc I honestly don’t have a concrete judgement on 600 strike.
Welp, I can’t believe I somehow got back into Gravity Falls (haven’t watched Gravity Falls since like high school).
I got this idea at 3am.
No, I won't elaborate further
Yeah… yeah it’s exactly like that
I am so sorry to everyone who knows me for the person I am going to become when the Wisdom Saga comes out
Okay so I’ve seen a lot of people being like “oh Eurylochus is not a hypocrite bc he didn’t intentionally sacrifice the crew with Circe like Odysseus did with Scylla”
And while yes it is not the same, uh…….. here’s the problem from my perspective and why I still totally think he’s a hypocrite.
He was the one who had those men under his command. Odysseus gave him a mission and for that mission, Eurylochus was in charge of those guys. Then he LOSES (yes it is his fault, he was responsible for those men) the men to Circe and then runs back to Odysseus and immediately is trying to leave. He in a way is actively choosing to ABANDON those men without even TRYING to attempt a plan to save them. Like he doesn’t even think about it.
Yes Odysseus and the Scylla situation are messed up and it is not the same as Eurylochus and the Circe situation, but sorry guys this man is absolutely still a hypocrite. For his own self preservation he was about to abandon a bunch of men HE LOST to a supposed evil. The only difference is that Ody did it deliberately while Eurylochus’ incompetence caused it.
And here’s the thing, we can argue that Odysseus bc of the Scylla situation is more of a monster than Eury. I’m not even saying the mutiny is not justified. IT ABSOLUTELY WAS. The crew absolutely should have mutinied and Eury was right to challenge Ody.
However, these characters are complex and like yeah, Ody is a monster and a conniving schemer, but he is ultimately just a man trying to get home. And Eury is a fool and a hypocrite that would abandon his men for his mistakes but he is also just a tired man who is starving and suffering.
I just realized something so sad:
If Eurylochus died instead of Polites they legit would have made it home by the Ocean Saga. You can’t tell me Polites would have opened the wind bag.
Hell he probably would tell Ody to sleep and he’d look after it and the two would take turns until they got to Ithaca.
Okie look, I’m not a huge fan of Eurylochus, I’ll keep it a buck fifty. I think the man is a hypocrite and a fool.
That being said, OH MYGOD this man really tug at my heartstrings man. This saga especially I felt so bad for him???! Him genuinely sounding so tired in Mutiny and so regretful in Scylla and so broken and defeated in Thunder Bringer.
Just… Jorge and the team did such a good job of writing these characters man. That is how you know a piece of media is well done; you see a bunch of debates from many people about the characters and their motivations and each side makes very valid points. It’s just so good!
Thunder Bringer is such an interesting twist on the trolley problem. Wherein instead of you making the choice of saving one person or many, it’s suddenly yourself or them. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think there are many people on this Earth that would choose to let themselves die for others (especially under the context that the situation they are in is because of the others anyway but yeah).
okie so I’ve noticed a lot of discourse in regards to the thunder saga and Odysseus. It’s interesting to see how everyone is seemingly split on him. Some say his crew were fools and Eury is a hypocrite while some say Odysseus is a snake and that it is harder to sympathize with him.
Personally I’m slightly more leaning towards the former, but I genuinely want to hear y’all’s thoughts!
oh my god the Scylla song SO DELIVERED LIKE I THOUGHT IT WOULD
That actually gives me some better context thank you! Honestly I do think it’s down to perspective and people’s personal favorite tropes versus tropes they don’t like. Like what you’re willing to put up with in the media you consume and for everyone it’s different.
Like I’ll be honest, I think Akechi is one of the best written characters in the game. However I also don’t really like his kind of characters. And that’s okie I recognize he just isn’t really a character I enjoy that much it’s down to personal taste.
And I think it’s the same with shuake/akeshu. It’s down to what you enjoy and I personally like clear cut and wholesome ships more than the complicated not so clear ones. Honestly my biggest confusion with the ship really is just how Futaba and Haru would feel about it. But I guess that’s the point, the relationship is complicated. I just sometimes wish there was some more emphasis on it to highlight how that is inherently a bit of a problem (like I feel like most people wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who is dating someone that really hurt them, even if it wasn’t intended).
No hard feelings though thanks! Your post did give me some better insight! I am getting it a little better now haha
I don’t get akeshu / shuake at all.
Like I get it from a typical “fandom loves the enemies to lovers trope” perspective but in all honesty I don’t get the insane brainrot the persona 5 fandom has for this ship.
Like do I think Joker cares for Akechi? Yes.
Do I think he was genuinely conflicted/tempted by Maruki’s ultimatum? Yes.
Do I think they have a genuine relationship and see a lot of themselves in each other and actually somewhat understand each other? Yes.
That being said, I really don’t see how anyone can look past the fact that Akechi tried to kill Joker. And okie fine enemies to lovers, fandom’s favorite ship aside, I don’t see how Joker can actually want a full on relationship (like romantic) with this dude when Futaba, Sojiro, and Haru are like right there?
This may just be me but I reallllllllly wouldn’t be friends with someone who is friends (hell forget even in a romantic relationship) with someone who horribly hurt me.
And I don’t think Joker loves Akechi more than Futaba, Sojiro, or Haru. Especially Sojiro and Futaba. Those two are like his family, and Akechi is responsible for their suffering.
Like… it’s kind of one or the other. Joker can’t be friends/dating Akechi without horribly betraying Futaba, Sojiro, and Haru. That’s just how I see it (but I’m open to hearing other perspectives!)
I don’t get akeshu / shuake at all.
Like I get it from a typical “fandom loves the enemies to lovers trope” perspective but in all honesty I don’t get the insane brainrot the persona 5 fandom has for this ship.
Like do I think Joker cares for Akechi? Yes.
Do I think he was genuinely conflicted/tempted by Maruki’s ultimatum? Yes.
Do I think they have a genuine relationship and see a lot of themselves in each other and actually somewhat understand each other? Yes.
That being said, I really don’t see how anyone can look past the fact that Akechi tried to kill Joker. And okie fine enemies to lovers, fandom’s favorite ship aside, I don’t see how Joker can actually want a full on relationship (like romantic) with this dude when Futaba, Sojiro, and Haru are like right there?
This may just be me but I reallllllllly wouldn’t be friends with someone who is friends (hell forget even in a romantic relationship) with someone who horribly hurt me.
And I don’t think Joker loves Akechi more than Futaba, Sojiro, or Haru. Especially Sojiro and Futaba. Those two are like his family, and Akechi is responsible for their suffering.
Like… it’s kind of one or the other. Joker can’t be friends/dating Akechi without horribly betraying Futaba, Sojiro, and Haru. That’s just how I see it (but I’m open to hearing other perspectives!)
I miss the house so much :(
i should make a gif
hold on
this...kinda just started with me trying a new brush i made, also yes that text in the panel where Vader is kneeling doesn't fit with the tone of the rest of the comic, but alas!! I apologize for the wonkiness
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me: yeeeeees Icarus and Mel YEEEEEEEES
also me: aro ace Mel ARO ACE MEL
bro Icarus and Mel are so cute
ive been listening to coral crown and i am gonna claw on repeat for the past couple days pls send help
This is what I was thinking too. And what’s sad is it that because she was trained (and lowkey groomed??) at birth for this task, she barely knows anything about this family she is supposed to be fighting tooth and nail to save (and is like the core goal of the game which is weird cause now we have a protagonist that is kinda disconnected from them which I talk about here).
ok. ive cooked. i dont trust hecate.
i was a bit confused why she rubbed me the wrong way instantly, and i think ive finally figured out why. i dont think she cares about melinoe. and i know that hecate on some level does care, she has to, but thats the point.
i think hecate has raised melinoe to be a weapon, and nothing more. no maternal care. no love. just training and training and death to chronos death to chronos and it makes me Scared for mel. whats going to happen when chronos is gone? what happens when her purpose is fulfilled? because no one ever asks her how shes doing either!!! no one in the crossroads checks in on her!!! they check in on her Task sure but never how shes feeling, how she's faring with all this. mel tells hecate shes feeling the pressure and hecate tells her to channel it. fuck, even as a kid, hecate only played hide and seek with her as TRAINING. they only see her for her purpose they dont see HER.
and!!! in a way!!! this would parallel zagreus! think about it!!! zagreus was hated by a lot of the house of hades because they saw his defiance as brattiness - oooo daddy won't let me go out so i'll RUN AWAY - when we know his feelings on the matter are a lot more complex.
do you think, when we finally get zagreus back safely, he's going to look his little sister in the eyes for the first time and find that she's just like him?
Okie so hot take: I don’t think Melinoë is as good of a protagonist as Zagreus. And here’s why.
It all comes down to motivation. Why did Zag go through the events of Hades 1? Because he was living in an abusive and volatile household and had to find some way to make things better for not just himself but his house. Otherwise he surely would have lost his mind having to deal with the abuse he got (remember at the beginning of the game basically only Nyx and Achilles were helping him. Everyone else is either neutral towards him or outright hostile). He needed answers, he needed to find out who and what he was by trying to find Persephone. And in the end he succeeded and was able to create a better life for himself and his house. Hell, even his relationship with his dad improved.
Now let’s look at Mel (yes this criticism is only addressing Early Access Hades 2). Why is she going through the events of Hades 2? Because… she’s been groomed since basically birth to kill Chronos. She doesn’t really have any other motivation than because it is what is expected of her essentially. She even says during her confrontation with Chronos, AFTER HE THREATENS TO HURT HER FAMILY, what do I care I barely know them (yeah sure she could just be bluffing to Chronos but that is still a very chilling thing to say when supposedly all of this is to save them and it makes her reunion with Hades lowkey ring hollow or weak). In another scene she even says the same thing to Hecate and says Hecate is more her mother than anyone else. Heck even in the flashback scene with young Mel and Hecate (which was very cute I’ll admit) she says she would want her mother to come back so Hecate isn’t sad. This makes all her motivations to kill Chronos and save the Underworld seem very… disconnected from the main component of the game? Being saving the house of hades and her family??
Like it’s expected of her and she was raised at birth to basically be prepared for this but she doesn’t have any personal reasons for doing any of this than just not letting Hecate and the others in the Crossroads down. Hell when she comes back from killing Chronos for the first time it honestly feels like Hecate is more interested and invested in what happened than Mel herself.
It makes her a really weird protagonist especially when comparing to her brother and how effective he was as a protagonist. Think about it, with Zag we got really in depth and character revealing moments where as the player we understand why he is doing all of this and so it is easy to go along for the ride because we like Zag and want to help him. Mel says she cares a lot about what is going on and wants revenge, but it all feels surface level (and which is understandable she doesn’t know these people, all she can say is “the titan took my family” when let’s be real she sees the people in the crossroads as more of her family). It honestly just seems like because she is expected to kill Chronos since she could think, she feels she has to do all this. It feels weird how she is disconnected from the core point of the game being to save the house of hades when Zag was so integral to that same core point in the first game.
I dunno, just my thoughts, I’m curious to see what everyone else thinks.
Edit: just fyi cause I feel with the comments I’ve been getting from my posts, I like hades 2 I am excited especially for the official release. I recognize my criticism/analysis could be wrong or out of date since the game isn’t finished yet. These are just my initial thoughts.
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