Jake Sully Is So Silly What Do You Mean You're Not Gonna Spend More Then 10 Minutes Thinking Of A Plan

So I mentioned this before but in the Spouses Friend Group the guys still have their titles, and the girls roast them daily for it. 

Simon gets the worst of it because he has the highest title and his occasion posh attitude.

“Okay Duke of Hastings, you’re getting posh points,” Kate will say to him when Simon says something in rich without Penelope there to translate. 

Penelope and Phillip are constantly going back and forth about which title to call him because technically Phillip has two, he has the one from his family and the one he earned by getting his phd.

“Sir Crane.”

“Dr. Crane.”

“Mm, no it’s Sir Crane.”

“Dr. Crane. Isn’t your father a baron?” 

“Yes, but I am no baroness, Sir Crane.” 

“Come my little lordling, we have a staff meeting!” Sophie will say as she leads Gareth to said staff meeting. 

“Earl of Kilmartin! Come bestow your presence on this lowly servant AND ANSWER YOUR PHONE!” Lucy yelled into Michael’s voice mail after calling him for the fifth time to make sure he ain’t dead or in jail again. 

I know she only alluded to Eros and Psyche to put Debling off of proposing to Penelope, but it is telling that Cressida is seemingly more clued into the Penelope/Colin dynamic and their feelings for each other than Eloise was.

Spider Socorro Protection Squad

Reblog if you’re part of it.

No because what do you mean they were best friends as kids and Ekko had a crush on her, and then he tries to ‘rescue’ her from Silco but she doesn’t want to go with him and they end up on opposing sides as enemies and he insists that ‘Powder is gone, only Jinx is left’ but he paints a mural for Powder as one of the people they’ve lost and when he has the chance to kill her he can’t bring himself to do it because he still cares about her and she tries to blow them both up because she views death as mercy and wants to die with him and then he gets sent to another universe where she’s still Powder and he falls in love with her all over again and he goes back to his universe convinced he can save her and he has to watch her kill herself over and over again before managing to convince her to live and join the fight and they do and he wears her paint and then she just… dies anyways and now he’s lost her for like, the NINTH TIME

Arcane writers you will start coughing in 10 days

12am incoherent Spider rant incoming:

The fact that a huge portion of Spider fans sympathise with him because they had similar family experiences in life is low-key making me feel kinda weird about people who hate him. Like let us recap the events real quick-

Like why do you hate a kid who did more to keep the Na’vi safe than Jake through the entire movie? “They’re after us” ok? This is not just about you dumbass it’s a whole-ass war, the RDA will still want to find the rest of your tribe because they want to ERADICATE your people 😐 the fact that it took him MONTHS to realise that running will not save anyone is 😬 (though I can get behind it bc family and all)

How is it that a goddamn 16 year old was the one who carried the good guy team??? 😐😐😐 he saved tribes from getting murdered, like literally, Tonowari said that no one had died, WONDER WHY???? DO Y’ALL THINK QUARITCH WAS NICE OUTTA NOWHERE???

And then he sunk a ship. HE SUNK A SHIP BY HIMSELF????

AND THEN HE INDIRECTLY SAVED KIRIS AND JAKE’S LIFE????

“He backstabbed them” I know you’re not blaming him for it when Neytiri exists 🧍 bestie outright REFUSED to help a literal child and didn’t bat an eye when he got captured. I can get behind her putting a knife to his throat in a rush of emotion but to very clearly ABANDON him? Fuck off. If her active decision to leave him behind didn’t turn into the reef Na’vi’s literal saving grace I’d be hating on her so actively.

“He saved his homocidal dad after he promised to murder his family” first of all the Sullys NEVER adopted him and it’s made abundantly clear. You sound like a gaslighter when you use that rhetoric. 😐📸

And secondly — HELL YEAH HE DID???? I would too if I was him and so would you and so would we all because Miles is the first grown up who GAVE A SHIT. MILES GENUINELY CARED. “It’s morally wrong” NO CAP 😀😀😀 NO ONE SAYS IT WAS RIGHT BUT THE KID HAD A SPLIT SECOND TO MAKE A DECISION AND HE CHOSE NOT TO BE A MURDERER.

You know what else is morally wrong tbw? Neglecting a child for 16 years.

“B-but they had no obligation to take care of a human kid—” cry me a fucking river 😐 what they want or not doesn’t fucking matter when we are talking about the mental health of an actual living breathing being. They ALL (the scientists, the Sullys and even the mf McKoskers or whatever the hell their last name is) were morally obligated to give that kid the best they could to ensure that he wouldn’t turn out like his father BECAUSE THEY’RE ADULTS.

The fact that their collective neglect DIDN’T blow up in their face is a pure miracle. Thant kid had every right to turn evil and burn the village that rejected him to feel it’s warmth but he DID NOT. In fact he is so goddamn kind and compassionate that he sees good even in a piece of shit monster like Quaritch.

It’s mind-blowing when we consider the lack of parental love and guidance throughout his life.

☝️ THIS is the kid you’re hating on???? Bc it’s starting to look suspiciously toxic 👀💅

Pay my boy some respect. He was a literal hero and y’all act like the Omatekaya, ignoring whatever good he might do and then point fingers at him when he does something morally questionable LIKE ITS NOT JAKES FAULT??? LIKE THE REST OF THE ADULTS ARE NOT AT FAULT TOO??

Neglect makes people vulnerable. Vulnerable enough for an asshole to swoop in and manipulate them and it is only thanks to Spider’s unyielding loyalty and heart that neither Ardmore, nor Miles had pulled anything out of him in MONTHS of captivity. They had NO idea where Jake or Omatekaya were until Norm fucked it all up with his trackable ship.

Listen I love all the blorbos, but the parents dug their own grave so to speak. You fumble the bag repeatedly and then get surprised when it flies into your face? 🤨

Anyway, I’m out. Might delete this later idk.

I wonder if there is a much older draft of Avatar 2 where Spider actually was adopted by the Sullies

These are two early concept arts of Jake and Neteyam's songcords, both of which feature the "unofficial adoption of Spider" as an important event. The creative team recently clarified that these are old concepts and shouldn't be considered canon, but the fact that they exist implies there was a time in the past where Spider would've been more like a part of the family rather than the stray he was in the final version. Even the old concept art of Neytiri's songcord features Spider's "adoption," implying a much more positive relationship between them than what they had in the movie.

I wonder what the older vision for Avatar 2 was like, and what other changes it underwent to become the final version we eventually saw on screen. I can imagine that if they were originally going to have Spider be closer to the Sullies, they must've changed it because of the decision to bring back Quaritch and have him undergo character development. The beginnings of Quaritch's future character development and the fact that he survived the final battle of A2 at all only occurred because he developed a relationship with Spider. If Spider was a part of the Sully family and had a healthy parental relationship to compare Quaritch to, I doubt he would've ever bonded with and subsequently saved him. Plus, if Neytiri "unofficially adopted" Spider, she probably wouldn't have threatened to kill him, which would've eliminated one of the most intense scenes in the movie. Ultimately, I understand the narrative reasoning behind making Spider the "stray" of the group and think it was the right choice, but I'm still curious to know what different ideas they had in mind for Spider when they made the old concept art.

Man, I would've loved to be a fly on the wall in the writer's room for those years when they were hashing out the script! I wonder what other things changed over the course of the development, like how did they decide to kill off Neteyam, and how did they decide to make Kiri the way she is. I'd also love to know how they reached the decision to turn the events of "The High Ground" into a comic series and how they decided to split "The Way of Water" and "Fire and Ash" into two separate movies. I remember watching an interview with James Cameron where he discussed how difficult it was to split TWOW and FAA into two movies. If I'm remembering correctly, he said one of the big challenges was some important character moment for Spider that they had to shuffle around to get the narrative to flow. I wonder what that moment is and how they decided to put it in FAA rather than TWOW.

I don't know if any older drafts of the A2 script exist, but if they do I'd love to get my hands on them one day and read through to see all the little changes and different ideas they had.

Neytiri’s “shame” about her children

I’ve been wanting to talk about this for a while because I saw that some time ago this topic was discussed in the fandom, and even though I’m a bit late, I wanted to share my thoughts. This is about this line from the original/previous script of ATWOW ofc, which stirred up a debate between the fans, especially after the Avatar account made a video about the scene while showing/underlining that specific sentence.

First of all, it’s important to specify that a) this was not the final script of the movie, and b) things have been a bit exaggerated and framed in the wrong way from the get go, by the Avatar official account in the first place. To be honest, I haven’t really followed the discourse with much attention, but from what I’ve gathered, I feel like the discussions people had about this were, imo, based on a misinterpretation of the core meaning of what this infamous sentence means: Neytiri is not ashamed of her children per se, but rather she is ashamed of the fact that her children have Sky People’s blood in them.

And yes, it’s a very different thing. To me, it’s not that Neytiri feels shame about who her children are as people. Just because she feels “shame” about their blood, it doesn’t mean she is ashamed about them, as in who they are as individuals. Nothing will ever change the fact that she loves her children more than anything else, and with no doubt considers them perfect just like every mother does; but it’s still true that she could feel some sort of shame about the fact that her children have the blood of their oppressors running through their veins. I don’t think it’s a “ew my kids are dirty half-bloods and they disgust me” kind of thing (like a lot of people framed it to be), but rather a “I love my children with my whole heart, but I still don’t like and struggle to accept the fact that part of them is human, like the people who murdered half of my family, massacred my clan and destroyed my home and life” kind of thing.

And this is not to say that this feeling is not “problematic”. But, considering everything she has been through, it’s also both extremely natural and irrational. I’m sure that she feels very conflicted emotions about this. She 100% technically knows that her children are Na'vi, but she also can’t help but feel disappointed by the fact that they will always be different, and that this difference is caused by them having human blood (we get a glimpse of that in the comics). I also believe, unlike a lot of people I’ve seen, that this — canon or not — is not a disservice or a misinterpretation of her character at the hands of the writers. I actually think it’s a spontaneous progression of her arc and a natural consequence of the events she has experienced in the first movie/so far in her life, not to mention a very realistic effect of a life-long colonization and oppression. It’s not out of character, it’s an aspect of her character that is deeply complex, nuanced, even somewhat problematic, and therefore uncomfortable for a lot of fans to properly judge, analyze or even accept.

Also, small note about Jake, because I think this insight on Neytiri’s emotions naturally raises another question: does she feel shame about Jake too? In my opinion, yes. But it’s the same “logic” as before: she loves Jake for who he is, for what he has become, but she is not happy about the fact the he’s human, and I think a part of her will always struggle to accept that. I also think she loves him despite Jake being human, not that she loves him because she embraces this side of him. She hasn’t changed her mind about Sky People (and rightfully I would add), she has simply fallen in love with what she considers to be the exception, exactly because he is, at least in her eyes, the exception.

Remember that, whether this is about the kids or Jake, this an extremely nuanced and complicated situation and should be treated as such. In my opinion, Neytiri’s trauma about the Sky People will never truly heal. Even if one day she learns or decides to reconcile with (some of) them, even if she does need to work on some irrational and unconscious trauma responses she has (such as this feeling she has developed about her children), I believe there will always be a hidden part of her that will not accept it, there will always be a part of her struggling with the hate and the rage and void the Sky People left in her, there will always be a scar too deep to be properly healed. And that is legitimate.

The only reason they made Maddie a Noxian spy is because otherwise, she would've been a victim in this entire situation, and people would see how shitty Caitlyn's actions actually are.

Cait is still Maddie's superior. The power imbalance is very much there, not to mention the way she treats Maddie outside of their affair. Imagine if instead of being a 'traitor that weasled herself into Caitlyn's bed to gain her trust', Maddie was just an innocent young officer who was manipulated and used by her boss. It just makes Caitlyn look way worse, which she is, because she didn't know Maddie was a spy, so in her eyes, the difference in status didn't matter.

The writers needed somone else to be the scapegoat while Cailtyn did her thing and everyone was already against Maddie because she 'got in the way of Caitvi', which is not true by the way, Caitvi was always going to be cannon. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, but I've seen it happen time and time again in fandoms, so I'm honesty not surprised.

Silly comic I made after having a heart attack when I woke up with my cat staring at my soul