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dear professor i cant seem to lock in. its so over

new favorite kind of guy

made a meme for anyone else out there who gets stuck in the "it wasnt that bad!" or "maybe im not traumatized!" loops because trauma denial sucks ass!!! you all are valid!!!

omg lol i wws just explaining the same thing to my partner, that it’s hypocritical how they understand didosdd is more than just alter disorder and then turn around and claim alter = didosdd? every time i argue with antiendos it devolves into the most basic argument

“endos are faking having didosdd! theyre invading our spaces!”

“okay but the majority of endos dont claim to have didosdd, that’s like the entire point of the label”

“but by claiming to have alters you’re just roleplaying didosdd!”

“but you agree that didosdd is more than just alter disorder, right? if you can have hallucinations or depression by itself, as a symptom of a disorder or even as a struggle alone, who’s to say you cannot have alters by themself? that’s even barring the hundreds of other ways people claim to have headmates, which are not things that you have authority on if it is real or not since you don’t live in their brain”

“…YOU’RE FAKING!”

“i am diagnosed with did, i just do more critical thinking than you do”

“YOU’RE STILL FAKING FOR BEING PROENDO LFMEBFKWJFNWKJSJAK”

like it’s tiring seeing all of these people listen to whatever lie gets told to them and then base their entire personalities off hating some group or other just because the internet told them to. and anything less than hatred is somehow unacceptable as well

YEAH exactly!! like... its kind of just gatekeeping the term "system" at this point, because the DSM-5 actually acknowledges cultural practices that cause identity alteration in the diagnostic criteria of DID. there is a specific note saying it isnt a cultural practice lol

plural lawyer call that a justice system

saying "who said that" at the end of a sentence is a lot funnier when you're plural. who DID say that

very cheesed to see someone else acknowledging the pervasive hypocrisy in anti-endo spaces. another big one is how they claim their stance is to "protect the community from fakers" or some other insistence that endos/related are bad actors, and proceed to.. you know. exclude other disordered systems from osddid spaces on the basis of supporting endos. a la the very blatant implication of "you're fake if you believe in them because a Real System wouldnt believe in them". like dude. seriously? where am i

yeah, also like... claiming endos are "fakers" is always so weird to me because... in order to fake DID or OSDD-1, wouldnt you kind of need to claim that you HAVE the disorder??? endos dont claim DID or OSDD-1 to begin with LMFAOO so how would they be faking it

it makes me kind of sad to see how many people online make fun of autism depictions in media... even the "stereotypical" ones. i often see people make fun of media with autistic characters (either canon described as autistic, or heavy implications and autistic traits) and then say its because its "inaccurate" and "stereotypical" and "overexaggerated" like... are we ignoring the fact that some autistic people do present that way?

my personal example of this is the tv show the good doctor, i watched the first couple seasons when i was like 14ish and first coming to terms with my autism diagnosis (before that point i had done everything i could to ignore it, and my mom had hidden the fact that i was diagnosed from me for a few years because she didnt want me to feel bad... i was diagnosed around age 10 and really would have benefitted from support, but never got any)

i am aware that the show doesnt have the best representation and isnt the most accurate, and i do wish the actor who played the character had been autistic, for better representation as well as promoting autistic actors... but i still loved the show, medical science is a special interest of mine and i have wanted to be a surgeon ever since i was very little, so i really liked to see a show about a topic i love that shows someone like me being successful! i was very happy!

later on i ended up going online and searching the show, all i saw were people making fun of the show and making fun of the character for autism things... all done under the "nobody actually acts like that" argument... it really did hurt me a lot, because i actually act like that. a lot of the struggles the character had are real struggles i face as an autistic person, even if the show doesnt always represent them the best

i struggle with making friends, i struggle with physical touch, i struggle with saying the "wrong" thing and not really knowing how to converse (especially in emotional situations), i am monotone, i need rigid routines, etc etc... so i was very happy to see a show with someone like me!! and it makes me sad how many people make fun of it with the excuse of "nobody is actually like that" because yes! people are! i am!

gonna get a bit syscourse-y here, but... recently noticed kind of a weird hypocrisy in anti-endo arguments and wanted to point it out to see if others agree

for extra context, i have DID and im pro-endo id say?? my mindset is basically just "i dont get it personally, but live ur life dude(s), its not my business and im not gonna tell u what u are / arent" because like. i find it super hard to believe that DID and OSDD-1 are the ONLY possible causes for systems LOL... also i will be using the terms endo / endogenic as umbrella terms for all plurality outside of DID / OSDD-1 throughout this post

ANYWAYS THOUGHH... most harshly anti-endo spaces (or at least those that are pro-recovery) really emphasise that DID and OSDD-1 are more than just "alter disorders", which i absolutely agree with! DID and OSDD-1 are both complex dissociative disorders that include identity alteration (alters) as a SYMPTOM, but the disorders both fundamentally involve dissociation and impairment in daily life to some extent

BUT... then they are also so quick to say that endos MUST have DID / OSDD-1 if they have alters... but what about all the other symptoms? most endos i have met do not experience dissociation or other DID / OSDD-1 symptoms. claiming someone MUST have DID / OSDD-1 because they have alters would kind of be reducing the disorders down to just "alter disorders", right?

plus, it seems to be entirely ignoring the fact that you can have a symptom of a disorder without having the disorder / being disordered... lets use ADHD as an example here since its the first thing to come to mind LOL, someone can have a short attention span or be distracted easily without inherently having ADHD. it would depend on the presence of other symptoms as well as degree of life impairment. this logic also applies to any other disorder ever... so why dont we apply the same logic to DID / OSDD-1?

most endos i see dont claim DID / OSDD-1, and the ones that do are generally mixed origins. if we apply the logic that symptom ≠ disorder and that DID / OSDD-1 are more than just "alter disorders", why would someone not be able to have alters without a dissociative disorder?

IDK i hope this makes sense. feel free to reblog with any comments or anything i want to see others opinionz

anti-endos worshipping the DSM and citing it as proof that plurality has to be caused by trauma / disordered: Rahhhh you're a liar because this book only used in america has it!!!!!

the helpful ICD, which apparently recognised non-disordered plurality in one of the iterations (not sure which one) and used across the entire world:

SORRY i am just now seeing this but YEAH i actually think i know what ur talking about. im pretty sure there is an ICD document / article about dissociation that mentions non-traumagenic plurality somewheree in it? but dont quote me on this because i saw it like... last year LOL

also the DSM never even says that plurality has to be disordered either? it just says that DID/OSDD-1 are not caused by spiritual or cultural practices, which honestly if anything validates non-disordered plurality? because like that means it acknowledges that identity alterations CAN be caused by things other than DID/OSDD-1