Sorry... Princess. But I know firsthand how well you keep promises.
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yes, that’s great, but what i meant is, tell me all of the important stuff she said.
bonus:
Re-watching ‘Queen for a day.’
This sweetheart loved his village I SwEaR.
I just gotta say, I heckin love Varian’s color palette!!
It’s so earthy and soft. I really like the fact that there are no bright or particularly vibrant colors in his design, even his eyes are a nice, pale blue.
Why do you still like Varian? I mean, I get he’s a kid but he’s not so young that he wouldn’t know that kidnapping is wrong? That you shouldn’t threaten the life of another person? And the way he keeps casting himself as the victim. Would you explain why you still enjoy his character and want his redemption?
This might be my favorite ask ever, as it’s basically an invitation to gab on at length about my love for well-written characters. Gosh, where do I even begin?
The short answer? I love nuance and complexity in characters, and the more characters exist in shades of gray, the better I think they are.
The longer answer…
Varian’s antagonistic, sure, and he’s dabbling in some villainous ways, but evil? Evil, he’s not. You said it yourself, he’s a child. There are adults that can’t go through what he’s experiencing without it going badly, and you’re gonna hold it against a child? I don’t care how intelligent Varian is, he’s still young and developing. He can’t control his emotions yet, and it’s Varian’s emotions - not his logic - that are currently in control. A lot of people seem to be missing that key factor to his motivations.
There’s also the question of intention. Varian is making a lot of bad decisions - none of which I’m excusing - but ultimately he’s doing it to save his father. He claims some of it is for revenge, but that need for revenge comes from his deflected guilt over causing and then failing to prevent his father’s current state. His need for revenge is coming from the pain of being abandoned by literally everyone around him but his raccoon in his greatest time of need. Pain is not evil. Pain is just pain, and it has to be worked through or else it becomes a rot, which is what we’re seeing.
You reference how Varian keeps trying to paint himself as the victim. Yes, because the alternative is him admitting that what happened to his father is potentially all his fault, that through his passion for science he might have murdered his own father, and he just cannot grapple with that emotionally right now because he’s too young to know how. He can’t do it on his own, so he’s deflecting it. That kid needs a blanket and a hug in the most major way, and there’s nobody around to give him that.
Plus, he’s not solely at fault for this chain of events. It doesn’t matter if they’re “the good guys”, Rapunzel and King Frederic share some of the blame. It’s not Rapunzel’s fault that she had to break her promise to Varian when he came looking to her for aid, but she is at fault for never once following up with him. Imagine how differently things might have turned out if, instead of taking a painting class for example, she’d taken a trip out to Old Corona to check up on someone she apparently felt guilt about breaking her promise to. She could’ve given Varian comfort, learned about his father and offered her help, etc. Then there’s the King. By his own admission, he knew the black rocks were destroying the kingdom and he chose to do nothing. Varian messing with the rocks was a direct result of that inaction, him hoping to help people by figuring out a solution. Imagine if the King had addressed the issue instead, and how that might have kept Varian’s experimenting at bay. Then there’s the issue of someone spreading it around that Varian had attacked Rapunzel, a lie that apparently cut him off from the rest of the kingdom so he couldn’t ask for aid from anyone. He couldn’t then just walk up to the castle asking to speak to Rapunzel. His options for action dwindled rapidly, and he got desperate.
So you have a 14-year old boy isolated from the world in the middle of the grieving process. People go to bad places when cut off from others during crisis, and even the best people can wind up making bad decisions. Does any of this mean I agree with Varian? Of course not. I’m not excusing anything he’s done. He made his choices. I simply understand where he’s coming from in making them.
But you also asked about redemption, and why I want him to have it. Varian’s a good person at his core, we’ve seen that, and he deserves a chance to come back from his mistakes. Did Elsa not deserve redemption because in a moment of panic she froze her whole kingdom? If you think about it, she and Varian share similar paths. She lost control over a power she didn’t understand, it endangered and injured loved ones, people treated her like a villain, she refused to “see reason” when Anna tried to get her to return, but inevitably she came back from it and got a happy ending. Varian deserves that same chance, doesn’t he? Plus, basically everyone else is getting their happily ever afters even after making bad choices: Eugene, Cassandra, the Pub Thugs,Rapunzel, King Frederic… The question I put back to you: why do you feel Varian is the only one who doesn’t deserve that same redemption?
I still love Varian because I’m empathetic enough to understand his choices, and a glutton for great characters even if they’re bad guys. Frankly, I’m not sure how anyone can see stuff like this:
…and still refuse to acknowledge that Varian isn’t evil, he’s just in a really dark place. You don’t understand how I can stand by him? Well, I don’t understand how people can be so quick to just write him off. People seem almost eager to hate him, and I don’t get that attitude. Fans took Lance in even as he was actively getting Eugene back into trouble for no good reason. Why is Varian the one getting the brunt of people’s hate for bad choices? Answer me that.
And failing all else, some of Varian’s choices were less an issue of malice and more just him being incredibly smart about maneuvering what few resources he had at his disposal. He didn’t kidnap the Queen to be terrible; he did it because he knew it was exactly the right catalyst he needed to get people moving how he wanted. For me, that kind of craftiness is worth respect, even if I don’t personally agree with it.I’m always here for a master class in strategic genius.
I did not mean for this post to go on this long, but I have many feels about our little alchemist and his current situation, so here we are.
Rapunzel: Don’t be too hard on Varian, Dad.
King Frederic: I’ll be sure to do everything I can to get him help.
Me: Okay, but hear me out, you two. What Varian did was wrong, but if you had done that from the beginning instead of just as Varian said, abandoning and vilifying him, we literally wouldn’t be here right now.
Fred, you blatantly ignored a threat to your whole kingdom just because “magic makes me angry”. Rapunzel, you just abandoned your friend and never once went to check up on him after you had to break your promise to him when he clearly really needed you. And even once you discovered the truth about his father, you still left him instead of just going out there and being like “Let us help you” as a show of good faith. Then, as somehow the whole country was being told he attacked royalty and that making him unable to turn to anybody else for help, you both jumped straight to “he’s such a villain” when he ran with the few dwindling options he had left to him to try and save his father. You don’t get to act like you’re being lenient on him here.
Seriously, if you’d just made the effort to help him up front, we literally wouldn’t be here right now!! Don’t bother with these barn doors, the horse has already bolted. All three of you created this mess.
Okay, but really? I’d hardly call tugging her arm and holding her dress while begging on his knees “attacking” her. So either Nigel has incredibly low standards for an “attack”, doesn’t clearly remember the events, or has an ulterior motive for casting disfavor on Varian…
I don’t care what my dad says but the females in this family all agree that Varian deserves a redemption arc and, without excusing his wrong actions, not all of it is his fault.
I mean, even if Rapunzel chose to break her promise to save her kingdom, she could’ve visited Varian instead of going to that art class. It was very clear that he needed urgent help, and since she wasn’t able to give that, she could’ve given him the support he needed after and offered to help him instead of waiting for him to come to her.
Heck, even Cass or Eugene could’ve gone to comfort him. Don’t even get me started on that rumor of him attacking Rapunzel - whoever started that’s gonna catch these hands.
I could go on and on but the bottom line is: prodigy or not, Varian’s still a child. He’s projecting the guilt and betrayal he feels in a negative way because he wasn’t given the support when he needed it most. He felt alone and isolated, and in a psychological point of view, people in his state have the tendency to spiral.
He deserves a redemption arc, because I’ve seen him before he became a villain. This is still the same sweet boy we met in Episode 2, he just needs the love and support to find his way back.
im rewatching the sundrop special and its still absolutely infuriating to hear them villainize varian so much, while casually claiming the kings actions as bad, but with good intentions. like bro. dude. the kings action of putting HIS family above everyone else kick started everything.
I’m so curious about what Tangled Series is going to do with Quirin and the letter he is holding. Because now that both are left trapped in amber, we actually have a dilemma.
Imagine they get rid of the amber and free Quirin. What use is a letter if he can just say whatever he wanted to tell his son? This piece of paper we have been focusing on will turn out to be useless and forgotten after all the time we have been guessing what he wrote.
So it’s clear someone needs to read it. So they can either remove part of the amber to get to the letter or Quirin turns out to be truly gone. That would make the letter his last words to his son. But that is rather dark for a kids’ series, I’m guessing?
ok but one question. when exactly did rudiger like. become rudiger? when we first meet varian, he’s just trying to keep pests ie rudiger out. then comes queen for a day, and he’s got a name? and rapunzel knows his name too, so she must have met him after being named. or did i just like, miss a scene?
Out of everything from the Tangled series, this scene is hands down my favorite. It’s such a quiet, thoughtful moment and despite the fact that he never says a word, it tells us a lot about Quirin.
But mostly, it really cements that Quirin undeniably misses his wife and *loves* his son, so, so much. That little chuckle as he looks at Varian’s baby pic is so ‘That’s my boy’ it kills me.
Only Varian can play the solo (Part 1)
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The real reason Varian became a villain
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If Varian worked at a drive thru (Part 2) | Part 1
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I hope that in the end Varian will return to its previous state because after all he’s been through in his age he deserves happiness.
I’m not trying to excuse any of what Varian has done, but this scene definitely had me shouting “OH C’MON!” at the TV screen on his behalf. I know they were just having a “thank goodness everyone is safe” hug, but they’re having that family moment literally mere feet from where Varian is breaking down at the feet of his father’s encased body after his latest failure to save him.
NOT. COOL.
Something went wrong, Varian’s crushing under the weight of his failure, and he’s seeing his friends get their happily ever afters while ignoring him and his plight. If there’s a single scene that can summarize his journey to the dark side, this is it.
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